I met my ex last year and he told me he was a recovering addict currently taking subutex. I eventuallly found out that he had been prescribed subutex for 7 years. He was put on a reduction script when he moved in with me, (at this time I did not know how long he had been on it for) and has since relapsed whilst supposedly taking subbies and then once clucking off subbies he has as far as I am aware not had a day were he has not taken anything. I tried everything to help him, believing him when he told me he did not want to take opiates anymore. He is in his 40's and turns out he has been misusing herion for 20 years. I do truely love him but due to the lies and anger/ depression he suffers at times I felt truely drained and also have a couple of kids who I felt were beginning to suffer being around someone with such extreme mood changes plus the arguments we had. He blamed me for the arguments and said I had anger issues. He is a lovely guy if only the problems with his herion abuse could be resolved. He works, so money is not the problem. The lies, the lack of being able to think how I may feel occassionally due to his actions, his lack of any sort of deep feelings for me and the kids and his inability to look towards the future makes me feel frustrated. I like to have fun with a partner but don't feel like I'm on his level. I am completely heartbroken and even after throwing him out and telling him it is completely over I still cant seem to get through this very easily. I want to talk with him to see if he will seek help and then maybe we can rescue our relationship but his lies and cuntish attitude have just been so awful that I dont know if I could ever believe him anymore.Should I just say goodbye, also I told him I would tell his family and he said if I did he will kill me. I feel I should tell his family. His ex is a user as he got her into it.

What r the effects of subutex ? what is the exact purpose of subutex? what is the difference between subutex and suboxone?

to the person who is afraid of being on Subutex while pregnant. I have had a baby on methadone and she did have withdrawl but the doctors where so careful with her, they treated her like she was there own. Doctors love chidren and don't want to see any of them suffer. Also PLEASE do not go down on your meds while you are pregnant, that could cause a misscarage and for your baby to be very uncomfortable in the womb, how you feel could be how she/he feels, OK, always talk to doctors and nurses about anything you take or stop taking, Very serious for your babies health, try not to stress out and DRINK tons of liquids to keep the fliud around the baby as fresh and clean as possible. I hope I have helped you. I have read about other babies born on subutex going home the next day, I would breast feed to help comfort the baby, they say very little goes into the breast milk and does not absorb well through the stomach. Pray to God and have faith that he is watching over your child. but we must do our part, and EAT VERY healthy and sleep when we need to.God bless all of you that are scared, we will be OK, I am almost 5 months, I am on 6 miligrams a day of Subutex, I was at 2 in the beginning but started to feel withdrawls and went up alittle at a time, I think this is holding me fine. I hope this helped. Also talk to the nurses at the hospitol that your baby will be born at, maybe they have some real live experience that they can help us with. Write back anyone that has had a baby and tell us your experience PLEASE.

I have had an addiction problem from percocet, dilaudid and other pain killers for 4 years (ever since i started having to have so many surgeries)....i have no health insurance. a friend of mine takes 8mg suboxone and gave me 2 of them because i started to go through withdrawls. i do have a chronic pain problem but unfortnately i have such a hard time taking them correctly. anyway i researched it, and i only took less than half of the pill, not even 4mg, and about an hour later i felt better, my withdrawl symptoms were going away but now i feel SO incredibly tired. i'm afraid to go to sleep. i take 2mg of klonipin a day i've taken those for 10 years, but my psychiatrist is so conservative if i tell her i have an addiction problem she will cut me off the klonipin, and I DO take those correctly i always have. i dont think i like this how long will it take to get this out of my system? it almost feels like i am taking my usual opiates , just less euphoria and more sleepiness. i just want to try and quit myself, without this. plus i hate that i dont have a script for it because ...well our healthcare system sucks, but i just didnt know what else to do i was feeling really bad. any advice on this would be great. one more question are you suppose to start out taking Subutex (i think thats what its called) before Suboxone? the difference i think is that one has Beuphrinorphine and the other does too but it also has Naloxone added to it. I feel so stupid i just didnt know what else to do i was feeling so bad. and PLEASE guys no judgement this can happen to ANYONE at ANYTIME...i never thought this would happen to me from having surgeries....but it did and i AM trying. thanks and God Bless

1. What are Suboxone and Subutex?

Subutex and Suboxone are medications approved for the treatment of
opiate dependence. Both medicines contain the active ingredient,
buprenorphine hydrochloride, which works to reduce the symptoms of opiate
dependence.

2. Why did the FDA approve two medications?

Subutex contains only buprenorphine hydrochloride. This formulation was
developed as the initial product. The second medication, Suboxone contains
an additional ingredient called naloxone to guard against misuse.

Subutex is given during the first few days of treatment, while Suboxone
is used during the maintenance phase of treatment.

3. Will most prescriptions be for the Suboxone formulation?

Yes, Suboxone is the formulation used in the majority of patients.

4. How are Subutex and Suboxone different from the current treatment
options for opiate dependence such as methadone?

Currently opiate dependence treatments like methadone can be dispensed
only in a limited number of clinics that specialize in addiction
treatment. There are not enough addiction treatment centers to help all
patients seeking treatment. Subutex and Suboxone are the first narcotic
drugs available under the Drug Abuse Treatment Act (DATA) of 2000 for the
treatment of opiate dependence that can be prescribed in a doctor’s
office. This change will provide more patients the opportunity to access
treatment.

5. What are some possible side effects of Subutex and Suboxone?

(This is NOT a complete list of side effects
reported with Suboxone and Subutex. Refer to the package insert for a more
complete list of side effects.)

The most common reported side effect of Subutex and Suboxone include:

• cold or flu-like symptoms
• headaches
• sweating
• sleeping difficulties
• nausea
• mood swings.

Like other opioids Subutex and Suboxone have been associated with
respiratory depression (difficulty breathing) especially when combined
with other depressants.

6. Are patients able to take home supplies of these medicines?

Yes. Subutex and Suboxone are less tightly controlled than methadone
because they have a lower potential for abuse and are less dangerous in an
overdose. As patients progress on therapy, their doctor may write a
prescription for a take-home supply of the medication.

8. What are the key components of the risk-management plan?

FDA has worked with the manufacturer, Reckitt-Benckiser, and other
agencies to develop an in-depth risk-management plan. FDA will receive
quarterly reports from the comprehensive surveillance program. This should
permit early detection of any problems. Regulations can be enacted for
tighter control of buprenorphine treatment if it is clear that it is being
widely diverted and misused.

The main components of the risk-management plan are preventive measures
and surveillance.

Preventive Measures include:

• education
• tailored distribution
• Schedule III control under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA)
• child resistant packaging
• supervised dose induction

The risk management plan uses many different surveillance approaches.
Some active methods include plans to:

• Conduct interviews with drug abusers entering treatment programs.
• Monitor local drug markets and drug using network areas where these
  medicines are most likely to be used and possibly abused.
• Examine web sites.

Additionally data collection sources can indicate whether Subutex
and/or Suboxone are implicated in abuse or fatalities. These include:

• DAWN—The Drug Abuse Warning Network. This is run by the Substance
  Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) which
  publishes a collection of data on emergency department episodes
  related to the use of illegal drugs or non-medical use of a legal
  drug.
• CEWG—Community Epidemiology Working Group. This working group has
  agreed to monitor buprenorphine use.
• NIDA—National Institute of Drug Abuse. NIDA will send a letter to
  their doctors telling them to be aware of the potential for abuse and
  to report it if necessary.

10. How will Subutex and Suboxone be supplied?

1.  
   • Contact the CSAT Buprenorphine Information Center at 866-BUP-CSAT,
     or via email at info@buprenorphine.samhsa.gov or
     http://buprenorphine.samhsa.gov/
2.  
   • Go to: http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/subutex_suboxone/default.htm
3.  
   These medications will be available in most commercial pharmacies.
   Qualified doctors with the necessary DEA identification numbers will be
   encouraged to help patients locate pharmacies that can fill
   prescriptions for Subutex and Suboxone.

Both medications come in 2 mg and 8 mg strengths as sublingual
(placed under the tongue to dissolve) tablets.

12.Where can I go for more information?

11. Where can patients get Subutex and Suboxone?

Only qualified doctors with the necessary DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency)
identification number are able to start in-office treatment and provide
prescriptions for ongoing medication. CSAT (Center for Substance Abuse
Treatment) will maintain a database to help patients locate qualified
doctors.

My son and wife just had a baby. Both were on subxone. It there anyone out there that was on subxone while they were pregnant whose child is a few years old. My grandchild seems to be healthy. she weighed 9#but is jaundice. Any comments or information would be greatly appreciated.jacarlson2003@yahoo.com

A

I am 23 weeks and I am on subutex. I worry everyday what will happen when i have my baby. I am very scared but I know that I am not ready to get off. I wish I could talk to people that have been throught the whole proccess to see if there babies had wd. I heard that it is a 50/50 chance and its not as bad a babies on methadone. If anyone has any answers i would love to hear. Also i am carring very very low? Will i go into labor early??

I am no doctor but my doctor did tell me that you SHOULD NEVER FEEL the feelings of w/d...hence the need for the subutex. I wouldnt recomend "white knuckling" it so to speak....in fact my need for the meds has INCREASED in this pregnancy something that I was told may happen. I am worried about the w/d of my infant (due Oct. 30th) and cannot seem to get any definitive answers on what to expect. I know (as we all do) what hell detox is and really dont look forward to seeing my baby boy suffer like that. Does anyone know what I have ahead of me?

Welcome to Subutex Helpline,

If this is your first visit, contact someone from subutex helpline now at 1-866-398-6637.  Call now if your thinking about going through a subutex detox.